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Since Taylor didn’t leave us a large amount to discuss yet I’ll submit what I think would be good Romantics syllabus:

Plato, Timaeus

Spinoza, Ethics

Kant, Prolegomena

Schiller, Aesthetic Education of Man

Fichte, Introductions to the Wissenschafteslehre

Novalis, Notes for a Romantic Encyclopedia or Fichte Studien

Holderlin, one of the collection of his essays and letters

Schelling, he has some shorter writings available online that give a good view of his early Naturphilosophie and Identity system periods and then I might pick something from late Schelling like Investigations on the Possibility of Human Freedom for a complete book of his.

I would definitely intersperse into this the Goethe, Herder etc you already mentioned.

Timaeus and anything major by Spinoza are somewhat indispensable source texts for Romanticism, along with the Critique of Pure Reason but I wouldn’t be mean enough to suggest that for a book club book. The major movement of German Romanticism is to feel a deep need to bring Kant as expounded by Fichte into harmony with Platonism and Spinozism, so it helps to have a little background. They didn’t feel that you could naively escape Kantian critique but they did feel that Kant gave an unsatisfactory picture of the world.

If you had to pick only Hegel or Schelling, I would pick Schelling. Hegel breaks with Romanticism and ends up forming its raw materials to his own ends but Schelling for much of his long career is giving elaboration and systematization to the Romantic strain of Absolute Idealism which was first explored by Holderlin, Schlegel, and Novalis. Schelling is also deeply under appreciated in the Anglophone world so you would be righting a wrong.

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I can already see many themes in the first 3 chapters that have been present in our past readings, making this selection a great fit for this book club.

Taylor's talk about life being 'flattened' is reminiscent of Han's ideas of non-things 'de-reifying' the world. Just as Han described us having less of a relationship with the physical world, Taylor is describing how, turning inward, we are experiencing less of the world and community that used to exist.

Additionally, Taylor mentioned how institutions are limiting our choices, and this reminded me strongly of Nguyen's work that we just read. Metrics that institutions are gathering are used to make choices for us, and we don't have a lot of choice in those decisions.

I was struck by how relevant these ideas are to today's current culture, especially in the US. Now more than ever, it seems important to engage with a community and not just do things for yourself. Corporations and institutions have tried to separate us, and want us to stay that way, because they know there is strength & power in numbers & community.

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